Canada Is Not A Real Country, And Why Americans Should Care

November 3, 2008 | 50 Comments

There is an old saying about Quebec: Pity the poor French Canadians. They had a chance to build a country based on British politics, American technology, and French culture. Sadly, they ended up building a country based on French politics, British technology, and American culture. There is also an old saying about Mexico that easily can apply to Canada. Pity poor Mexico, so far from God, so close to the United States. Canada’s attempt since 1960 to become a real country, rather than just a place, clearly is ending in failure half a century later, and the consequences for the United States are growing more ominous by the day.

For starters, it looks as if the American people are about to elect as their president a man who is a Kenyan by birth, and who looks, talks, acts, and thinks like a Canadian. Not a comforting thought when one considers Canada is the Fannie Mae, Lehman Brothers, General Motors, and Bethlehem Steel of nations. It’s little more than a bunch of losers who could have reached for the stars, and instead flew the business into the pavement face first. People criticize Barrack Obama for promising change while failing to be specific about what he means. To the contrary, his goal could not be clearer; he wants to turn the United States into Canada.

He is what nineteenth century British imperialists called a “brown skinned Englishman”; namely, a colonialist superbly suited to advance the interests of the British Empire and the class that ruled it. Today, the British colonial masters and their pathetic lackeys wear three button suits rather than resplendent uniforms, call themselves “neo conservatives”, and prattle on about the New American Century, as if they think no one recognizes it for what it is, the old British Empire with an American accent. And by the way, they are only too happy to let the Americans supply the muscle, and bleed the rivers of blood necessary to ensure the endeavor is a profitable going concern.

So if you want to know what the future holds for the United States under an Obama presidency and a Democratic congress you have but to look north to what was once a really nice place. It wasn’t a country, but a least it was nice. Now it’s just an increasingly violent, demoralized and beaten down satrapy. Keep your head down, and your mouth shut if you know what’s good for you. And above all, never disagree with the ruling class, just be a good peasant. It’s called the Canadian Way of Life. And Mexico? It may not be nice, and it may only be a narco-gangster state ineptly governed by a corrupt oligarchy, but a least it’s a real country. God Save the Queen!

Comments

50 Responses to “Canada Is Not A Real Country, And Why Americans Should Care”

  1. someone who hates you on December 1st, 2008 4:10 am

    what the **** you **** **** you took a perfectly good website name for a history website and turned it into a **** gossip channel for your idiotic opinion Canada has better health care better education are more polite less polluted and Americas probably jealous because they couldn’t seize their land or buy their country of them. im glad about the economic crisis because it means the end of the American empire which has ruled the world through idiocy for the past 8 years

  2. someone who hates you on December 1st, 2008 4:11 am

    oh and the american health care sytem is worse than a 3rd worlds health care system but making it like every other democratic country would be “communist”

  3. Site Administrator on December 1st, 2008 5:01 am

    Well sir, I am not the author of these articles, but the site administrator, and although we appreciate your contributions and comments, and value everyone’s opinion, the rules to our sites are quoted from on our “About Us” page at AmericanHistory.org: http://www.americanhistory.org/about/

    “We don’t call people dirty names because that is the sign of a weak argument, which leads inevitably to the conclusion one is dealing with a weak mind.”

    For some reason it seems that many liberal types have a hard time “speaking their mind” without resorting to profanities, and personal attacks.

    I am sorry that you don’t like that the author has an opinion, however unfortunately for you, in America we have this thing called, “Freedom Of Speech”. Furthermore I apologize if it offends you that I have censored your profanities, but we also have this thing called “capitalism”, where since we operate this website, we can do with it what we choose (within reason of course).

    You did seem to have something worthwhile to say in response, that may or may not have merit, and feel free to continue to comment, as long as you can do so with some level of decorum.

  4. Site Administrator on December 1st, 2008 5:02 am

    And to answer your question, the site(s) are not for sale.

  5. someone who hates you on December 1st, 2008 2:15 pm

    I swore because anything less than swearing would have not expressed my feelings. Also whats with Americans and always saying America we have this thing called, “Freedom Of Speech”. hundreds of countries have freedom of speech many have had it since before America

  6. someone who hates you on December 1st, 2008 2:18 pm

    and in democratic countries we have this thing called the geneva convention that stops us from torturing people but America just seem to ignore that

  7. Author on December 1st, 2008 8:05 pm

    Dear Someone:

    My webmaster called me to say we had a great response on the “Canada article” but unfortunately the good ideas were floating in a sea of crap which he had to edit out. (This is a family site.) As to your comments about the Bush Administration: If you read my other pieces (especially the one in Military History.org you’ll find I am no supporter of President Bush and his ill conceived Iraq war. I have some other issues with him, but they are of a more parochial interest for American audiences.

    As to your lovely country. As a child and boy our family visited your lovely country on many vacations. When I became an adult my family and I travelled once again to your lovely country and we have the happiest memories. My daughter, in particular treasures the memories of her childhood Canadian vacations.

    So my question to you is: WHAT THE HELL WERE YOU PEOPLE THINKING? You took one of the world’s great countries, perhaps the nicest, and drove it into the ditch. I mean you trashed it. Have you no shame? You should see the movie “My American cousin”? It about sums it up. My last thought: Thank God for Quebec. At least it’s a real country.

    Author

  8. Site Administrator on December 1st, 2008 11:38 pm

    Regarding freedom of speech. Check out this wikipedia entry about “Hate Speech”.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech

    You may be surprised to find out that every major country around the globe, including (you guessed it), Canada have Hate Speech laws, often times with a very harsh penalty.

    In Thailand it is a crime to speak ill of the King, with harsh punishment, and I’m not sure, but I’m guessing that in Canada it is a similar crime to speak bad of the Queen. So lets hope you agree with everything your goverment does, always, otherwise they will “take care of you”, and I don’t mean in the “social healthcare” way.

    Free Speech means the freedom to speak about ANYTHING you’d like, without fear of governmental consequences. Even though you don’t want to talk about something that is forbidden in your country, that doesn’t mean that everyone agrees with you. If everyone had to agree with you, or else, well that is starting smell kinda commie to me.

    At least in America when we get stuck with a leader we don’t agree with like Bush, we at least get to disagree with the guy, and better yet, we get the opportunity to elect someone else every 4 years and try someone new. Hopefully this next guy will be better, and more specifically (to the context of this dialogue), hopefully he won’t institute Hate Speech laws in the US, which is perhaps one of the concearns our author was eluding to in his article.

  9. same guy as before on December 2nd, 2008 2:16 am

    How is the United states of America better off because people can express racist views. How would it be bad if it was illegal to express racist, anti semetic so on views in public.

    ps im not canadian

  10. why the hell do u have to put a name on December 2nd, 2008 4:43 am

    No you can insult the queen as much as you like

  11. Author on December 2nd, 2008 1:23 pm

    How did we get from my idea that Barack Obama may want the United States to look more like Canada to a discussion of free speech? But here I go.

    Traditionally, the United States has provided for far more frredom of speech and assembly than anywhere else in the world. These freedoms are embedded in the American constitution and the constituitons of the fifty states. These guarantees mostly like date to the eighteenth century English constitution and America’s origin in a war of rebellion.

    Unpopular speech, not “victimized people” needs to be protected. Otherwise, any and every group of cranks and malcontents will come along and shut down a discussion it doesn’t want to happen. Given enough time all that is left is “approved” speech. Approved by whom is the question? The ruling class? After all who benefit s more from a limit on what people can say in public or private than those in charge?

    Author

  12. M King on January 19th, 2009 9:02 am

    1. Barack Obama is not a Kenyan by birth. He is an American by birth, having been born in Hawaii, unless you don’t consider that a state. If anything, he is a Kenyan born abroad.
    2. In the face of the economic upheaval, Canadian banks have withstood the onslaught better than any other, according to the financial industry.
    3. Canada would be a much nicer place if Americans would stop sending their crappy guns across the border. This is my personal opinion, as an American living abroad.

    Clean up your act ‘admin’. Whomever you are, you are grossly misinformed about Canada, but personally, I’m sure most of us would rather you didn’t bother to come up here to find out for yourself, because we don’t want or need approval from the likes of you.

  13. Author on January 19th, 2009 12:37 pm

    Dear M. King:

    As to point #1. Personally I believe there is some doubt he was born in the United States, but it’s a moot point because tomorrow Barak Obama will be sworn in as the president. Once again this represents a peaceful and ordrely transfer of power, something all Americans can be proud of.

    As to point #2. You are absolutely correct. The Canadian banking system, and the Canadian dollar have done well over the past decade compared to the American banking system and dollar due to a strong demand for the natural resources Canada is blessed with. Of course, the policies of the imbecilic George W. Bush and his arrogant and corrupt cronies also helped.

    As to point #3. Here we part company. I have spent a fair amount of time travelling about Canada, and am sadend by what has occurred since the infamous sixties. Instead of building a strong and independent country, the Canadians chose to become a province of the New World Order. Perhaps it was inevitable. Canadians have never been independent, they have always been part of a larger political order. They just couldn’t leave the comfort zone. Perhaps,to do so might have required them to use those pesky guns.

    Author

  14. A person on January 20th, 2009 3:31 am

    Canada unlike America achieved independence without resorting to a war. If Barack Obama wasnt born in America it would have been revealed by the republicans. Canada while it has guns has a tiny amount of crime and pollution compared to America. And when crime is commited your legal system has a remarkable ability to get the wrong person look up Sacc and Vanzetti or Guantanamo bay; America has a remarkable tendency to ignore the constitution or international laws and its people dont seem to care all that much. Or are you annoyed because you couldnt buy Canada like you did Alaska or conquer/buy it like half the southern states.

  15. A person on January 21st, 2009 3:56 am

    (Sacco not sacc sorry)

  16. Author on January 26th, 2009 12:18 pm

    Dear A Person:

    It seems you are doing two things at once; defending Canada and attacking the United States. The point of my article is to raise a critical question about Canada. Is it an independent country or is it a province in a shadowy “New World Order”? I suspect the latter because politically the country is controlled out of Ontartio. There is no parallel for this in the United States. Second, economically, a few giant corpoprations control the economy, and again there is no parallel in the United States. As a result of the concentration of political and economic power, Canada was an easy takeover target.

    It seems to me that Canadians are European living in North America, and never had a large enough population to develop a culture independent from Europe. And like Europe their democracy is a mile wide and an inch deep. By that I mean their society and economyis a top down command and contrl one with democratic trappings. So the reality is that Canada is controlled by an international elite that wants access to Canada’s fabulous resources, and is building a society that will deliver those resources cheaply. They have done this by destroying what fragile identity the people had to ensure their looting of the land and people will go uninterupted because a deeply divided and demoralized society will not be able to offer any significant resistance.

    Will this be the fate of the American people under Obama and the Democrats as it was under Bush and the Republicans?

  17. Neutral ( I'm English) on February 2nd, 2009 1:40 am

    Hearing two nations that are extremely similar in culture and ideals compared to the rest of the world (dispite what some may think) isn’t very enjoyable. I’ve noticed that most people from Europe and Canada are very quick to denouce the USA, while Americans hardly return the criticism. (This is atleast to my ears.) To me this shows that the Americans are more mature. As this conversation has illustrated, the Americans have responded with tranquility and with good points. The Canadians have been quite the opposite. In this instance I do not approve of the Canadians.

    Now to clear up some points.

    Allow people to publish articles on what they believe. Everyone has an opinion, and how you treat someone else’s opinion says a lot about who you are. As far as polution and politness, that is an opinion so please do not word that as if it were fact. I would like to believe that England has the best education, just like you would for Canada or America. Factually, however, the USA receives the highest number of international students who go over to America strictly for education. Also America has proven to be the most innovative nation (rivaled by Europe, ofcourse). I don’t wish to sound baist, but America has invented far more than Canada, that is a fact. Typically innovention results from education. For health care that is again a matter of opinion. Our system is much like the Canadian system but with a little more capitalism. I love that system but that is because I have never known a different form of healthcare. The American system allows for more freedom, and less government control, which can be positive and negative. I will not deny the many people who come from England to be treated by American doctors because they need better care or aren’t able to receive their needed care from the time or place they have been designated to. If I am not mistaken many Canadians go to America specifically to be medically cared for. While Canada’s and my nation’s system is cheaper and (I believe) more efficient for allowing everyone to receive healthcare, the American system appears to be more effective in actually treating people. How you could say that American healthcare is worse than a third world country’s is beyond me. The USA claims that our systems involve socialism, (not communism) which is true. So again we come to the matter of opinion.

    I am deeply sadened by hearing that Canadians think the USA wants to be conquer and buy land. If we can remember it was us, the British Empire, who didn’t recognize America, and tried to retake America during the War of 1812. The USA has always respected the Candian territory. And the USA has only bought what has been offered to them, they never coerced a nation into selling. I pity you, Canadian, for enjoying this economic crisis. Officially, and by definition, America has never been an empire. However, if you view America as an empire it has been around far longer than 8 years, and since it is the only surviving superpower, I would think that it rules with atleast some intelligence. The rest of the comments are very disheartening to someone who likes both nations. as far as jealousy, it appears that the Canadians are jealous of the Americans and not vice versa. If this is not true I would suggest you change the tone of your literature.

    My simpathy to the author and admistrator for having to deal with such conversations. On behalf of Canada (if an Englishman has the right to do so), please do not create an ill idea of Canadians. There are respectful and honorable Canadians out there.

  18. Author on February 3rd, 2009 6:56 pm

    Dear Neutral:

    Thank you for the kind words. We try to be informed and polite. These are values I learned from Canadians in the “old” Canada.

    Author

  19. Someone on March 8th, 2009 10:26 pm

    As an english man you do not have a right to apologise for Canada and i seriously doubt you are an actual Brit as no Brit would say that the US health system is good. While yes US’s “health care” is good if you cant get the health care that make it bad the Americans have good doctors and medical sciences but to afford this they need insurance which is terrible; the health care companies can throw you out of hospital and disqualify you from getting health care. (watch sico)

  20. a person on March 12th, 2009 10:12 pm

    correct me if im wrong but almost all of Americas inventions were made by immigrants educated in other countries or under british rule. Also America gets the highest amount of international students because it gives out education grants meaning that these people get free education who wouldnt want that. And America has not always respected Canadas borders unless im mistaken there was a big border dispute during a gold rush. Also America is an empire as it conquered most of its southern states. And finally where do Americans get this crazy view of being the last super power. Rusia, Britain, France, China, India and maybe pakistan could completly wipe out the USA with their nukes why does it matter that you have more. The question who would winm russia or America is stupid, america may have more missiles enough to destroy all of russia twice but you only need to do it once and russia has enough to wipe out all of america like 5 times

  21. a person on March 25th, 2009 4:22 am

    is anyone gonna respond or what?

  22. Ferdie Ray on March 26th, 2009 3:02 pm

    You are right on several points. Russia and all those other counrties are scary. But don’t forget, America is scary too! No sense in bringing back the cold war. Everybody has a bomb, and everybody will use their bomb if someone else uses their bomb on them, this isn’t new insight.

    I have no idea why we educate people from other countries for free and send them back home. It makes no sense yet it happens. Our goverment is a disaster and is hardly discernable from socialism at this point. If I wanted to live in a socialist nation, I think there are alot better ones to choose from, perhaps even Canada. Fortunately, as a side-effect of where the economy is now, I expect capitalism may have a comeback, and perhaps we will become a bit more intelligent with our resources, like education. Personally I think this economic disaster is a very positive thing.

  23. a person on March 26th, 2009 10:20 pm

    the government doesn’t control university; universities educate foreigners for free because if that person becomes famous that universtiy becomes prestiges for teaching them.

  24. a person on March 26th, 2009 10:21 pm

    sorry but where drifting from canada a bit here

  25. Ferdie Ray on March 26th, 2009 10:34 pm

    Public universities receive large amounts of funding via tax dollars.

    Private universities do not, so they can do whatever they want IMHO.

  26. Neutral ( I'm English) on March 27th, 2009 6:59 pm

    To “Someone”:
    I am English, or British, whatever you wish to call me. Don’t know how really to prove it to you online though. Again, you saying that insurance is terrible is an opinion. Some people perfer to pay separately for their healthcare rather than through taxes. They have more freedom this way about what health plan to have. Yes it is true that in America you can be disqualitfied for healthcare without the proper insurance, and companies do have some discretion over who to sell their insurance to. About people getting thrown out of hospitals, I’m not too sure about that. Also, many people in Great Britain like the American system. Our system has incorporated certain elements from their system. For instance I have my own health insurance, but I also pay taxes for the healthcare of others. While I do respect, and actually agree with, the American program of SICO, that program is biased. Make sure you are educating youself about both sides to every issue.

    To “a person”:
    I would very much like to correct you. Thomas Edison, Henry Ford, the Wright Brothers, and I could go on, were all educated in America. If by immigrants you claim that all Americans are immigrants since their ancestors at one time came from a foreign nation, then you are correct about the inventors being immigrants. However, the American inventors have all claimed American nationality, therefore, they saw themselves as Americans. Otherwise America would not have been able to claim such inventions. Now I could be wrong on this, but I recall that the American people have had disputes over the border in Maine and the Oregon Terriory, but that the U.S. government settled those disputes with some compromises benefitting both nations. Other than that I don’t remember any other conflict, but please bring it to my attention if there was. The American-Canadian border has been the longest demilitarized border in history and still is demilitarized, which says something about your border relations. I would also be proud ot that fact. We can feel save from land invasions because we are surounded by water, but most nations have fear of their neighbors invaded them. You can believe America is an empire, many do believe that too in England. By technicality America is not an empire, however, and as far as conquering their southern states, there was a civil war but the southern states were in the original thirteen colonies. I don’t know if you mis-worded something or what, but please argue with facts. By definition America is the only survive super power, but I guess that term can be up for debate too. I can’t recall nuclear weapons being a factor of a super power. The universities in America do not educate foreigners for free at all.

    I feel like I’m defending America here. I know that statistics have proven that Canadians spend the most time on the internet by a long shot, but I know there must be Americans who have read this. Perhaps this article isn’t one that they’d desire to read, I don’t know.

  27. Ferdie Ray on March 29th, 2009 3:55 pm

    @Neutral - Thanks for the positive words for the US.

    Funny how whenever it comes to Canadians for defending Canada it always boils down to healthcare. Is that really the big issue here between Canada and the US?

    IMHO the big difference is Socialism vs Capitalism. I prefer Capitalism, but to each his own. Unfortunately I fear the US is headed more towards Socialism every day, so soon we may have the same healtcare system as our neighbors to the north.

    When it comes to healthcare I think that England is actually doing it right (based on what Neutral said above). I do think it would be a good idea to have some sort of voted on/agreed upon level of social healthcare, paid for by tax dollars, however, there should also be a private healthcare option (in addition) for those of us who are willing to pay more for better healthcare than was voted/agreed upon by the whole of all the people. Lets be realistic here, if there was a social healthcare system, it is unlikely it would be the best possible arrangement for everyone, and when it comes to your health wouldn’t you want the best possible arrangement for yourself if you could afford it? Furthermore I think it is clearly a good idea to provide some level of social healthcare to everyone simply for the fact that diseases spread. I’d rather not get sick myself, as a result of coming into contact with a person who could not afford propper healthcare. This seems like justification enough for me to put some tax dollars to work at keeping this from happening. Also, perhaps we will get more work done, especially at lower level jobs, if the employees are sick less of the time.

  28. a person on March 30th, 2009 5:34 am

    going back to the university argument Ferdie Ray on March 26th, 2009 10:34 pm
    Public universities receive large amounts of funding via tax dollars.
    Private universities do not, so they can do whatever they want IMHO.

    The unversities that give out all these scholarships are surprise surprisem, private unversities like Harvard and brown ones not given government funding

  29. a person on March 30th, 2009 5:44 am

    wait i cant get passed this comment without critising you

    ” Again, you saying that insurance is terrible is an opinion. Some people perfer to pay separately for their healthcare rather than through taxes.”

    go to school, and i cant emphisize this enough. POLITIONS LIE ANYTHING THAT ANY POLLITION EVER HAS EVER TOLD YOU IS PROBABLY NOT TRUE OR ONLY A VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF TRUTH. Sorry but on the medical issue your saying someone would rather have to pay $100,000 for a catscan then another &100,000 to pay for an operation plus maybe 50,000 for a specialist or a complicated operation plus another say 10,000 for other things like meals dotors time ect. than to pay for medical insurrance and get it for free well unless your a millioneir i dont think you want to pay that

  30. a person on March 30th, 2009 5:47 am

    (um a person and someone are both me and someone who hates you and why do we have to put our name are all me.)

  31. a person on March 30th, 2009 5:56 am

    sorry but who owned Alaska before you sorry i believe it was Russia, and correct me if im wrong (and im almost never really wrong i make sure of that) but 13 colonies di not include texas or any of those states i can never remember the name of the 13 colonies only had about three states on the southern border so where di your other like 12 come from oh sorry do i hear some who just had their backside handed to them by a teenager because mexico used to control most of central America and if im being particularly picky i can also say that george washington was a cowardly liar, abraham Licoln was a racist and henry ford was anti semitic come on bring an argument i can counter it no matter what

  32. a person on March 30th, 2009 6:08 am

    Ferdie Ray on March 29th, 2009 3:55 pm
    If your so concerned about it going to socialist than why not do a system like Australia; in Australia if you make under a certain amount the government pays for yourhealth care and if you make over i think it like $75000 you pay some of your medical bills with private issurance that gets funding from the government (or something like that)

  33. Site Administrator on March 30th, 2009 10:30 am

    @a person et al - This is your second warning regarding your use of language. I have edited out the swear words from your comments in an effort to help you. We are trying to keep this site a family friendly site that perhaps kids in school could even learn something from. Your use of language is detrimental to your argument and does not benefit anyone.

    Please refer to our “About Us” page on AmericanHistory.org: http://www.americanhistory.org/about/
    where we say: “We don’t call people dirty names because that is the sign of a weak argument, which leads inevitably to the conclusion one is dealing with a weak mind.”

    Don’t prove this statement to be correct. You managed to leave comments for a while with useful contributions to the community, and we welcome your contniued useful contributions.

    Picking fights, dirty words and namecalling will not be tolerated again. If you are this pasionate about these topics you’d think you would want to have an intelligent discussion regarding them.

    I’m not sure what was going on with you this morning, but in closing I will repeat what I said to you last time: “You did seem to have something worthwhile to say in response, that may or may not have merit, and feel free to continue to comment, as long as you can do so with some level of decorum.”

  34. a person on March 31st, 2009 2:00 am

    whith all due respect i edited out my own profanities and it is hard not to get annoyed when you talk to people who refuse to see reason or even to consider the oppisites view. see i actually watch the news and documentaries and have considered my arguments taking into account all factors other people just sem to believe their views through pig headed arrogance

  35. Neutral ( I'm English) on March 31st, 2009 3:35 pm

    To Ferdie Ray:
    You’re welcome and thank you too. You are always welcome to join the British system, haha. Also, you give good points.

    To “a person”:
    You did not criticize my comment. You went off on your usual rant about an untruthful and unfactual OPINION. And yes what you said was an opinion, and I will be happy to keep repeating that so long as it is true. What America refers to as it’s “south” are the states from Texas across to Virginia, then down to Florida. Those were the original colonies, purchased land from France, or part of the annexation of Texas. Texas it self fought a war with Mexico and later America fought with Mexico for the “west”. This is all in North America, not Central America, mind you. So none of the “south” was conquered, and states were never taken over, only territory was taken over. States are made by nations. What Russia has to do with this, I have no clue, but then again I don’t understand where you come from with a lot of your arguments. So sorry to break it to you but you are wrong. Russia sold the Alaskan territory to America. Perhaps Canada was acting like you at the time and that is why they perferred to sell it to America, who knows. What you say about Washington, Lincoln, and Ford is really just hilarious. I won’t begin with that. As far you being a teenager, that is nice. I am also a teenager at age 19, with apparently just a little more maturity. Calling me names and referring to rude gestures destroys whatever substance (if there was any) your arguement had. Also, your rude comments will not get you far in life.

  36. Ferdie Ray on March 31st, 2009 3:58 pm

    It just seems that “a person” is more than likely on the other end of the political spectrum than the majority of the commenters here. Its not a shocker that he/she so strongly disagrees with the majority here, and at that I certainly understand his/her frustration. I’d probably feel the same way if I was trying to get my point across on a more liberal forum. I’m also not shocked that a liberal is so quick to resort to name calling but hopefully the admin’s comment will keep it under control as I think it is important that everyone gets to chime in their opinions. Furthermore its not shocking to me that a liberal would have a hard time discerning the difference between an opinion and a fact, but then again I suppose thats just my opinion.

    @ “a person”, I commend your bravery, you certainly seem to be in the minority here, however I agree with Neutral and Site Admin, lets keep it clean and constructive.

  37. a person on April 1st, 2009 6:15 am

    Ok i will apologize for the swearing sometimes (by that i mean almost always) I get very involved in an argument that I get carried away

  38. a person on April 1st, 2009 6:30 am

    By the way which liberal are you talking about because in Britain liberal is the conservative party to the right but in Canada it is an left wing party. Because i am definitely not conservative; im pro communism (but prefer socialism), pro gay, pro abortion, an environmentalist and I love technology (funnily though at the same time i love history; a conservative communist? sounds kinda strange)

    Can i just ask what is my “usual rant about an untruthful and unfactual OPINION”

    Also texas, new mexico, arizona, and almost all of california and most parts of others are almost all your southern states (actually southern states).

  39. Neutral ( I'm English) on April 1st, 2009 2:46 pm

    Ok, I’m done with this disscussion. I’m the Brit, and Ferdie Ray is the American. Not vice versa. And clearly you are not understanding my points. I am wasting my time. Good luck everyone else with this “a person”.

  40. Ferdie Ray on April 1st, 2009 3:56 pm

    @Neutral,

    Probably a wise move as this one probably isn’t going anywhere, just like he doesn’t seem to convince any of us of his points. Thanks for your time and kind words about America.

  41. S.P. on April 3rd, 2009 4:02 pm

    @Neutral - Thank you for taking the time to educate yourself so well on American history. It speaks very well for the British education system and your personal sense of global issues. I shudder to think how poorly educated our youth would be in a discussion about British history and politics. You are a gentleman and a scholar.

    @A person, you seriously need to learn more about American geography before you are so quick to comment. It makes you sound ignorant. Yes, Arizona, New Mexico, portions of California, etc are located in the southern portion of the country but they are not considered “The South.” This is a designation largely made popular at the time of the civil war, and is thus in reference to the southern part of the nation at that time. “The South” is not a line on a map, it is a region defined by a distinct cultural climate and historical events (and of course the Mason-Dixon line). The amount of land it encompasses is irrelevant.

    And on a side note, I would’t recommend telling people in Georgia, Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi, Florida, Arkansas, South Carolina, North Carolina, West Virginia, Virginia, Maryland, Tennessee, Kentucky, and Missouri, that California, New Mexico and Arizona are “The South.” Them’s fightin’ words!

  42. a person on April 4th, 2009 1:17 am

    now your dounding uneducated i already said i dont care what you think as the southern states I was referring to the actualy geographically south states of america on the Mexican border

  43. Stephen Henwicks on May 9th, 2009 6:41 pm

    Canada is quite similar to the U.S., except with lower crime rates, higher taxes, free healthcare and more unspoiled wilderness. Also, the banking system required no nationalization. I guess that makes Canadians “losers”. What could possess you to slander Canada like you did?

    I’ve never encountered any political censorship, I’ve spoken my mind, I’ve heard people of various political stripes speaking out. I have not seen an increase in violence. Gay marriage has had no impact on morality in Canada.

    If people swear at you and call you idiots, I’m not surprised, because your cluelessness seems to have no bounds. What did you expect with such slander, educated discussion? Could you even locate Canada on a map?

    In the comments I skimmed through above, you reveal more details on your negativity to Canada, points which should have made the article in the first place. For one, you note that the capital of the country is in Ontario, which is not like in the United States. Parliament is made up of representatives from across the country. Does making a separate capital region really drastically alter politics? You have provided no evidence, and this claim seems dubious.

    Another claim I noticed was that a few companies control Canada. But every capitalist economy has a set of critical firms dominating. This is equally true of the US and various Western states, and I cite bailouts to many corporations in various sectors like banking and automotive. Even if you think these bailouts are pointless mistakes and a waste of taxpayers money, the fact remains that firms like General Motors received large sums of government money instead of disappearing in a self-described capitalist system. How quickly liberal economics went out the window. Clearly, these influential firms have some control in the economy.

    Even if Canada was the most repressive country and a puppet state, it would still be a country. Communist Czechoslovakia was, believe it or not, a real country.

  44. a person on May 13th, 2009 10:31 pm

    Finally someone who agrees with me

  45. a person on May 18th, 2009 10:06 pm

    I have been doing some thinking lately because i have nothing else to do and i have come to the conclusion, while the world has a majority vote of America being stupid and some how people even consider everyday Americans stupid I have stumbled upon the reason. Most countries have many news companies that report on both sides they dont discrimanate against a certain side they report the facts if the left make a mistake then they report it and if the right make a mistake they report it. And there are also government news stations that the government cant control they report completly neutral stories. Meaning say in Britain you can get real facts like on BBC and newspapers ect meaning a voter can make an informed educated vote. While in the USA all the news channels hate the left and love the right. Look at what the news channels are saying about Obama apparently he is driving the country into the ground and all the protests going on are by partriotic Americans who have a right to do this. Look back 8 years when GWB won illegaly and people protested then the American media mocked them and said they were sore lossers. Well now theyre in the minority but since their rich and own the news we cant not hear them complaining. well ive got one thing to say to them.

    SHUT YOUR MOUTH YOU WHINY REPUBLICAN CRY BABY!!

    it is very similar to what they were saying. so its no wonder Americans are easily tricked as the media is printing nothing but propoganda to them.

  46. Ferdie Ray on May 18th, 2009 10:17 pm

    @a person

    I agree with you again (well not entirely but mostly). One of the biggest problems here is the media. It is sooo one sided. And why you ask. Well, IMHO you’ve got to follow the money. The news on the left is funded by advertising dollars of companies on the left, and the news on the right by companies on the right side. The news should be loyal to the readers & listeners, not the advertisers. Capitalism isn’t perfect and this is one of it’s major shortcomings. If the news didn’t care where it’s paycheck was coming from perhaps we would have some real news like BBC (although I don’t know how BBC is funded). In fact in our home we have a policy banning the news. We get our info from 1 of 3 places. 1) Blogs like this in the commentary, 2) Jon Stewart (whom I’ve been losing interest in alot lately as he seems to no longer be able to see both sides), and 3) Stephen Colbert. Colbert may be coming from the right, but at least he seems to be able to see both sides, even if he doesn’t agree with it he is not blind to it.

  47. a person on May 19th, 2009 9:54 pm

    The BBC is funded by the government and I realy love The Daily show and the colbert report cause even though its joke news it makes some good points like Colbert pretends to be right but makes fun of them in the process. Jon Stewart actually started my thought about the news when he did a piece on fox reporting on the tea party protesters.

  48. a person on June 9th, 2009 10:27 pm

    I am bored so here is a list of countries i would rather live in than the USA mainly because of health care but also because of other social reasons (like the right to bear arms)

    Antartica
    Cuba
    Argentina
    Australia
    Brazil
    Canada
    China
    France
    Germany
    India
    Indonesia
    Italy
    Japan
    Mexico
    Russia
    Saudi Arabia
    South Africa
    South Korea
    Turkey
    United Kingdom
    United States
    Sweden
    Norway
    Finland
    Denmark
    Austria
    Czech Republic
    And some more i cant be bothered to right

  49. a person on June 9th, 2009 10:28 pm

    (maybe not mexico)

  50. a person on June 10th, 2009 2:02 am

    why on earth did i put the united states on there im saying places i would rather live than USA. woops

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